Conditioning to Consciousness
Conditioning to Consciousness explores the journey from inherited conditioning to embodied awareness — honoring personal healing as a catalyst for collective transformation. It’s for those peeling back layers of stress, people-pleasing, burnout, and self-silencing — and learning how to reclaim autonomy, self-trust, and purpose in a world shaped by systems that keep us disconnected from our bodies and intuition.
Hosted by Jess Callahan, this podcast blends thoughtful conversations with experts and change-makers alongside solo episodes informed by personal healing, post-graduate studies in transpersonal psychology and consciousness, and years of study in nervous system regulation, intuition, astrology, and somatic awareness.
Each episode connects back to five core pillars of healing and awakening:
- Nervous system regulation
- Deconditioning the mind
- Reconnecting with intuition
- Self-discovery
- Integration and embodiment
Rather than bypassing hard truths, Conditioning to Consciousness approaches healing through compassion, curiosity, and grounded awareness — recognizing that personal healing ripples outward into collective change. When even a small percentage of people elevate their consciousness, the world around them begins to shift.
This podcast is for cycle-breakers, system-seers, creatives, and deep feelers who are doing the real work — not to fix themselves, but to remember who they are beneath everything they learned to survive.
Just because the systems are broken doesn’t mean we have to be.
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Conditioning to Consciousness
41. Mediumship 101: How Anyone Can Develop Spiritual Gifts with Kristina Cosmic Butterfly
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What if mediumship wasn’t a rare gift reserved for a chosen few—but a skill anyone can learn with practice, patience, and self-trust?
In this episode of Conditioning to Consciousness, I’m joined by Kristina Cosmic Butterfly, a medium, Reiki practitioner, and teacher who brings an incredibly grounded, accessible approach to spiritual development. Kristina’s journey into mediumship began less than a decade ago — without a spiritual upbringing, without “special powers,” and with plenty of doubt along the way. What unfolded instead was a process of learning, training, and slowly building trust in her own intuitive signals.
Together, we break down the myth that spiritual gifts only reserved for the "chosen few." Kristina explains how mediumship is developed through consistent practice, learning your personal intuitive language, and understanding the different clair senses—like clairsentience (feeling), claircognizance (knowing), and clairvoyance (seeing). We talk about why intuition often shows up subtly at first, how symbolism is deeply personal, and why self-trust is the real foundation of any spiritual practice.
This conversation also explores how mediumship extends far beyond communicating with crossed-over loved ones. Kristina shares how spiritual connection can support healing, creativity, purpose, emotional regulation, and deeper alignment with yourself. Whether someone wants to read for others or simply reconnect with their own inner guidance, the benefits reach far beyond the spiritual label itself.
We also discuss:
- Why self-doubt is part of the learning process (not a failure)
- How to identify and strengthen your natural intuitive strengths
- What it actually feels like to receive messages or insights
- Why community and mentorship matter when developing intuition
- How spiritual connection can create calm, clarity, and inner peace—especially in uncertain times
This episode is for anyone who’s ever felt curious about intuition or mediumship but assumed it wasn’t “for them.” Kristina’s teaching reminds us that spiritual connection isn’t about being special—it’s about being present, embodied, and willing to listen.
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If you’ve been feeling called to reconnect with your intuition, explore spiritual development in a grounded way, or simply understand how these abilities actually unfold—this conversation is a beautiful place to begin.
Find Kristina on Instagram at @_cosmicbutterfly or her website https://kristinacosmicbutterfly.com/
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Hey guys, welcome back to the Conditioning to Consciousness podcast. I can't even tell you how much I enjoyed this interview. My interview with is with Christina. Her artist name is Christina Cosmic Butterfly. She's a medium offering intuitive readings and Reiki healing. And she's been really focused on teaching mediumship lately. And I love this interview because it's like she really focuses on this idea that these gifts of connection, connecting with spirit, mediumship, like they're not just reserved for certain people. Like it's they it's something that's available to all of us. Every single one of us can do it if we just tap in. Her journey started actually like less than 10 years ago. Before that, she, you know, she'll tell you right off, like she doesn't, she she didn't identify as having any like spiritual gifts at that time. And she doubted that she would be able to like make it happen, really, like to really like become a medium. But by working with a great teacher, she was able to build a self-trust. And eventually she was able to start to establish this like really strong connection with her guides. And so now she teaches others how to do it too. Um she just she has such a down-to-earth perspective on mediumship itself, its accessibility to everyone. We touch on everything from like self-trust as a foundation for developing this gift, what the process looks like when you begin receiving messages from like spirit or spirit guides. We touch on the various cleric senses and what her process looks like for teaching others. So without any further delay, let's dive in. Cool. All right, Christina, I'm so excited to have you here. I've been just excited to have this conversation for a while. I think that like on the podcast itself, uh, we've been really focused on the process of like deconditioning in the systems. And a huge part of the collective shift, I think, that's so desperately needed right now is our own connection with intuition, our own connection with like spirituality. And I think that's where our conversation really comes in. So, with that said, I want to turn it over to you to just tell us a little bit about your story and and how did you like first start to understand that you had this gift?
Kristina Cosmic ButterflySo, my story, and it's funny because I feel like I'm going to be saying this like so many times throughout my life, but honestly, it started um at the tail end of 2018. Uh, my boyfriend at the time, he passed on very suddenly, and um that rocked my world because I had never really experienced death up till that point. So I was um, you know, had the rug pulled out from under me. And that is what kick-started everything. I had no uh intuitive spiritual background at all, didn't grow up religious, didn't really um experience any metaphysical stuff at all growing up that I knew of. Um looking back now, I realize I was a very sensitive child, but it was never painted as like anything more than just being a sensitive kid. Um, so when that happened in my life, obviously it was a very, very big hit emotionally. Um, it rocked my entire perspective of the world. And so I was already kind of open to um mediumship because I had grown up on shows like A Haunting and Um, where people would like bring mediums in and like scope out the the building or like call in spirits and you know the movie Ghost and all that kind of stuff. So that was always like in the back of my mind, but not something that I like fully truly understood or even really believed in. So uh when he had passed away, almost immediately after I did start experiencing a lot of paranormal activity, uh, where his music would be following me around on the radio, like, and um, you know, it's like in those very specific moments where I'd recognize, you know, I'd get into my car, I'd turn on the radio, and the first song that would be playing was like his song. Um, photos of him and I would just fall over, no other photos. Why just the ones with him and I? And um in dreams as well. And so I felt like there was something there, and I truly did feel like he was reaching out and showing me that he was still around. So I ended up going to a medium, and she pretty much clocked it on the head, his personality, what he would tell me, everything. And so I was like, oh my gosh, uh, this is amazing, and I need to learn to do it for myself. Because I'm the type of person who's like, I don't always want to go to someone else to do to, you know, talk to him. So I don't know how I got it into my mind that I could learn, but somehow I was like, I just need to learn how to do this. Um, because I was also under the impression like you have to be born with it and and all that stuff. But uh as many who are familiar with like the spiritual awakening path, you do throw yourself into learning and researching and googling a lot of stuff. And through that process of like seeking answers, I started to notice a lot of um overlap with a lot of people on different threads, different um like Reddit and things like that, would all say similar things of you can learn to do it, you can train yourself, um and a lot of different pieces of evidence that I felt like, oh, okay, I could just take a class. So that's what I did. I ended up taking a mediumship class in person, and the rest is kind of history, but I did go in there, you know, not not having any background. And I say this all the time. Um, my first day, I told my teacher, I was like, I don't have any special powers. I don't know if I can do this. I'm just here to see what happens and try. And uh he laughed at me and he was like, the ones who say that always end up being very talented. Um, and so yeah, and uh it was the rest is history. It just started to open up to me from there, and I just kept pursuing it, and I think I've caught up. Yeah.
On what it's like to be a medium
Jess CallahanWow, that's so okay. So that's really brave. Like that was a really brave like decision because I think that there's so many things that like work against people in general, like getting you to that moment, right? Where it's like um, like this like spirituality or like intuition or mediumship is like woo and it's taboo, and like also you have to have like magical powers. You touched on that. Like it's like it has to be someone like super special. And you know, like I I think back on my first experiences with mediums, and and I've like I've I've had that like spiritual inclination since I was really young. So I've been seeing mediums for as long as I can remember. But it wasn't until like the past several years that I think I actually really understood that it is something that every single one of us can develop. Um, so I want to get to that in a minute, but okay, so you mentioned mediumship. Is that your primary um, like the way that I understand it is that like the different people who have found ways to connect into this, like their own like sensitivity and spiritual gifts have different like methods that they connect. Is mediumship the primary method that you use?
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyI would say so, yes. I've always felt more inclined into like connecting with spirit, like uh, yeah, I'll do like tarot and like cards and all that stuff, but I feel like I still end up bringing through people's spirits or just connecting to like that kind of energy. Um, but since I've discovered like mediumship isn't just connecting to you know crossed over spirits or even spirit guides, like there is so much more to that. It's it's really just the tip of the iceberg that we understand it, but um, and just learning more about it and taking more classes with various teachers, I've learned that mediumship is a much bigger umbrella than we've come to believe. So can you say more about that? Like, what are some other things that that like fall under that umbrella? So, what I've learned is that you can also use it, um, and it's not limited to what I'm about to say at all. You know, I'm still scratching the surface because I'm only about seven years into the journey. But, you know, like soul to soul, that's not necessarily a crossed over spirit when you're connecting to somebody's soul and connecting in that way. Um, with like plant spirits as well. You can also use mediumship in medical ways too. So there's a lot of different ways to connect to this, I suppose we can say, all-knowing energy. And I really don't feel like it's as uh black and white of like intuitive mediumship and um, you know, divination and things like that. I really feel like they're a melting pot. So I don't know if that's gonna be like way too broad for people to grasp in the in the beginning when they're first starting out. But um, I think ultimately what is a good way to like approach trying to wrap your head around what is mediumship exactly and how does it differ? It's just a way to connect to another consciousness, really, I think is the best way of putting it.
On what it's like to get messages and downloads from spirit
Jess CallahanYeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. I think it's like uh all of these like bodies of research and and spiritual study come out that say we, you know, say we have like a higher self which can be projected, you know, we're here in this physical body, but we only experience a very small like part of the full like capacity of our consciousness, right? And like our consciousness can be presenting to to you like a version of my higher self, you could be connecting with that while I'm like very much here and present, right? And as you mentioned, like plants, like there's consciousness isn't just people, you know, there's like the there's consciousness all around us, and so that's really I love that you name that that like it's not just the people who have passed on. Exactly. So okay, so what is it like? What is the experience like for you when you're receiving, like you would you say like you're receiving messages, insights, downloads?
Kristina Cosmic ButterflySo the way that I tend to interpret the energy, um, it comes through, it's definitely evolved since I first started. Uh, just to give you an idea, like when I first started, uh, I was not really getting anything in those early days. I would feel like a little prickle in my arm, or um, like a thought would pop into my head. I'd be looking at a photo of someone and I'd be like, they seem like a musician for whatever reason. And that would be correct, like they were a musician. Uh, but I really didn't get much, but it did come through physically and emotionally first. Like I would feel emotions. Um, and I think that was just like slowly peeling back the layers as I started to evolve. Now I definitely see more. Um, like it comes through in my imagination a much, much more prominently. So I'm able to like visually kind of see. It's almost like daydreaming in a way, or like when you're reading a book. Um, I use that metaphor a lot in my classes. When you're reading a book, it's the same space in your mind when you're visualizing characters, like doing stuff. It's exactly the same. So I see a lot more, and um, I kind of feel things going on around me. So I'll sense movement, different motions, and uh like my eyes will get drawn to certain things, especially if I'm using cards as well. My eyes will get drawn to like a sun or a little mushroom in the card. And that is usually my own, like them drawing me to use my own symbolism. Like a mushroom is like, oh, you have messages about rebirth and like something's being decayed, but it's going to become something else. And um ways like that, uh, I would say it's definitely evolved and become a lot more clearer, but it was definitely a journey of practice, continuing to show up, continuing to want to learn and to want to improve. It did not come on so strongly all off the bat. It was definitely a process of like following the crumbs and like patience.
Jess CallahanI I would imagine. So I'm I'm hearing you like talk to some of the things like um like claire sentience, you know, if you talk about the clairs where the emotion is like what's starting to come through, and clear cognizance, which is that like clear knowing, right? So but did you have to do a lot of just like self-trust building to know, like to to know that like your eyes like maybe were drawn to the mushroom on the page because for a reason, you know, it's not like it's not something that you're like the there's there's a force sort of behind it, you're right.
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyOh, I just got a chill as you said that.
Jess CallahanOh, that's so cool.
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyYes, it was certainly a process what really helped because in those early days, like I said, I um started with a class. So I had a teacher who could validate and also kind of steer me into, you know, where do you feel that's coming from? Why do you feel they're saying that? What is the emotion behind that movement or the message? Where they'd have me kind of like shape it a little bit more. Not that they would give me the answer, but it started to help me to hone the skill. Um, and similarly, uh, I think I picked it up intuitively from watching YouTube videos as well, seeing other readers and uh watching their readings and seeing like how they would pick up messages. I used to watch this um old tarot reader. I don't think he's on YouTube anymore, but he used to read cards almost in like a Vegas dealer type of way. And he'd be like, All right, Queen of Wands, she's got her power, she's assertive. And seeing other people's interpretations kind of helped me to shape my own. Um, and it it really does build in on itself, like the more that you practice, the more that you encounter the same feeling or the same feeling for a specific message. And you start to kind of like build that understanding. You know what's coming to mind is like when you're um either like wrapping like one of those little rubber ball bands, you start with one rubber band and then you wrap another and another, and then you get a ball, and it becomes something more solid and uh just a bit bigger and functional, I guess.
Working with signs from the universe
Jess CallahanYeah, no, yeah, that I think that makes a lot of sense. And even just as you were explaining it, I'm thinking just like like it's like the muscle memory of like I'm sure at the beginning it's hard to really like identify a certain feeling if you're not closely paying attention, a certain feeling, a certain like I love working with like just like signs from the universe, and I think you mentioned that as one of your early like things that were like popping up, and but I think you have to really pay attention to the signs and like what they're saying to you. Like like an example is like the fox. And and if anyone, anyone listening has been listening for a while, they'll know, they'll know the fox symbol for me. But like um I've been getting foxes for probably like seven or eight years now, and the fox was always a yes for me. And I live in an area where there are foxes, but you don't see them commonly, especially not during the day. Like it's just it's like a fleeting thing. And I would start to get like foxes like basking in my backyard when I needed to make a big decision. And over the years of like studying when the fox shows up, I realized that the fox is a yes for me, but it's a like yes, but you're going to need to like dig into that like courage vault for this yes, you know? Um, but so is that it's kind of like that muscle memory of like studying the studying a situation, studying something that you're receiving, working with it to figure out like what it means for you directly, right?
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyYes, exactly. Like working, and I teach this so much is working with your own frame of reference, your own symbolism. I to this day, I used to get Disney references all the time in readings, like in my first, my first ever reading for someone else, I kept like thinking of the scene from Lion King where um Rafiki's like holding Simba up to the air. And I did, I was just like, This is so weird, like I don't know how this makes any sense. But I I said it anyway. I was just like, I'm getting like Lion King vibes. And my teacher was like, What did you just say? And he's like, Go dig into that. And I was like, I'm getting Lion King. I feel like I'm picturing someone holding a baby up like this. And it turns out that um the father who we were reading in spirit used to do that to his child all the time. He would like hold the baby up. But you know, if he had like just shown me this, if I had like just seen that without thinking Lion King, like I never would have understood what the heck does that mean. But they used to watch Lion King together all the time. And I was the only one who got that reference because um I love Disney movies. Yeah, you know, that's what I mean. Like, not everyone is gonna get Lion King coming to them, but because that's something that I'm close to, I'm able to pick that up and use that as my own symbolism. So similarly, when people, I don't know if you do this, I do this a lot when I see a very specific animal come across my path. I'm like, spiritual meaning of blue heron, spiritual meaning of marlin. And uh, you know, it's just like an AI generated uh description, but somehow I also like build that into my little reference bank of like, oh, it means like spiritual strength and intuition and things like that. So uh it really is, um, I just want to mention it's it's baby steps because you would be overwhelmed if you were getting all of the messages clearly all at once. So, especially anyone who's kind of like starting out in mediumship or connecting the spirit, um, and I'm not talking about people who are already very adept at receiving, but this is more so like people who want to learn and don't really know where to start. It comes as baby steps because they're helping to teach you and build your bank of references and symbology. Um and they almost like they, I feel like they're kind of stepping in here, but it's like they will kind of run you through it over and over and over so that you can really solidify your understanding. And the more that you experience something, the more that you become adept at identifying it, right? Kind of like how you mentioned when um, you know, the more that you kind of experience the feelings, then you're able to say what they are and be like, oh, I notice them now.
Jess CallahanYeah. Yeah. I haven't thought about it like that, where you're saying like that you're like that they're that you're they being like spirit guides or how whoever you want to tag to is like helping you build your own like database of like symbology. And it's bringing to mind even like if we go back to the fox, okay. So if just as an example, but if you would Google like what's what are like the spiritual um meanings of a fox, a lot of the things that you get back are like they can be tricky or cunning or you know, sly. And and for me, like that doesn't fit my personal symbology. And so I think that's a really important thing to remember is that even if you like Google it, it helps you, right? But it but like if you're reading about a blue heron and it gives you like four things that represent a blue heron, maybe like would you say that like maybe just one might fit for now and sort of get tucked into your little vault and you sort of like build even slowly in that way?
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyYeah, absolutely. And I mean, this is not to say that whatever meaning you pick for it. Is going to stay that for that symbol. Um, like it will change, like how you said for you, the fox is something totally different. And if that resonates more, then that's your meaning for it. Um, like typically for me, I remember I was doing another reading for someone, this time with animal cards, and um, you know, there's no like descriptors. We always throw away the book because we're like, whatever, we're just gonna read intuitively. And so I remember I got a rhino card for her. And me, I know rhinos just like as a rule of thumb don't have very good vision. And I just remember saying something, I feel like the situation, you feel like you can't really see that clearly, the path ahead. And she was like, Oh my god, like that's exactly how I feel. Um, but that's my reference, is that I know that rhinos are not so great, like they're kind of blind.
Teaching others how to connect with their gifts
Jess CallahanUm you're getting the messages that because like I would have thought of rhinos, I would have thought of something totally different, right? But like if you're the one reading it, it is there's a whole interpretive layer that comes through you specifically and like what what you've already built. So, okay, so you teach people like sort of this process, right? Can you talk a little bit more about like what that looks like?
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyYes. Um, so I love teaching beginners most of all because I just love the moment um, you know, people come in and there's so just there's a lot of self-doubt, there's a lot of uncertainty because they don't really know if they can do it, they don't know what they're getting into, they don't know what they're gonna learn. And I totally get that because it is a world of unknowns. And I was in their shoes just a few years ago where I was walking the same path of like, I don't know. I feel like I kind of been picking up some kind of messages, but I don't know what they're trying to say. And there's always uh for me, there's a process of like we need to build trust. And so I'll do like gentle practice exercises of like reading photos or reading objects, and I guide people through almost like meditations, but we don't have our eyes closed. We're looking at whatever it is we're looking at if we're using objects or photos, and I ask prompts like uh, if you were to go to the park with this person, do you feel like they'd have a brisk pace? Do you feel like they'd be talking to you the whole time? And and you know, a lot of people are like, Well, I don't know, I'm just gonna say whatever comes to mind. And I encourage that. I'm like, yes, even if you're unsure and if you keep thinking of something but you're doubting it and you don't want to say it, say it anyway, and things like that, because that starts to build trust. Um and uh what else do I guide people through? I I try to be very creative, and I do help people kind of identify their claircenses. So we'll go through these exercises and I'll ask different prompts to kind of bring out a different clear sense. So it's like if you were going on a hike with this person or this animal, what sounds could you hear around you? Would it be more of like leaves in the forest? Do you feel weight like waves on a beach? What are you hearing? And uh, if you were to sit down and have a heart to heart with them, what kind of feeling comes up in your body, which is more clairsentient, right? And so I kind of ask questions to help people pinpoint what clear senses are they're most leaning into at this time. And again, we have them all. They all can be strengthened because they're like a muscle, really. It's think of it as like going to the gym. And uh it does help bolster people when they're able to identify, like, oh, I'm actually stronger when I like visualize things, or I'm actually stronger when I feel things. And then we're kind of off from there. Like, once I can help people identify where their strengths are, then I'm like lean into that because the other ones will pick up, you know, all the other senses. They'll pick up and uh as you continue. And from there, uh, you know, we practice blind readings, and that's where people tend to get a little bit scared because they're like, I'm not seeing anything or connecting to anything physically. And it's the same thing. I asked the same prompts. Invite this person in close. What do you feel in your heart? Do any images come to mind? Or what kind of music do you think of when I say their name? What song comes to mind? And it's like the simple things like that, I believe that start to break down the barrier of mediumship.
Jess CallahanYeah, that like um, I think like, you know how kids they say, believe this fully, are born really intuitive and like with that connection. And then the world as we know it just like blocks it, it dulls that connection, not just because we're working hard, we lose connection with ourselves, we're but we're told that intuition is you know, invalid, an invalid way of knowing. And um, so as you're saying that, yeah, I'm starting to do, I'm just like like it, like envisioning sort of the like layers just like peeling back. The more you do that, the layers fall away. It's like that veil between your earthly body consciousness and collective consciousness, yeah, like dissolves a little bit. And yeah, like the way I see it is for all you know, for all of us to be able to connect in, is like if collective consciousness is like this body of consciousness that surrounds us, and we just have our own, but it's like you can almost like plug into it, right? Like you can plug into it and get the insights from collective consciousness spirit guides, the universe, like the all-knowing, but you just have to like I think as you're saying, like peel back those like layers that keep you separated, keep you from being able to just like plug in, right?
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyYeah, absolutely. I always use the radio uh metaphor. It's like it's tuning your radio and tuning into the frequency that you want to connect to. And um there, you know, most of the time we're walking around already tuned into like the thing frequencies around us. And I say that word just because it's the radio symbol, but yeah, there's a lot of noise, there's a lot of busyness. Um, you know, we're busy with our daily lives, our jobs, our families. And it it takes some practice to be able, yeah. First of all, it's a lot to navigate mediumship in such a busy world. Um but especially when you're first starting out, what's important is to carve out that space. Because it's like if you're in a crowded cafe and you've never done this before, it's gonna be really hard to like tune in, even for me now. Like it's I've kind of learned to like zone out the noise. But starting out, um, it's all about learning how to listen. It's learning how to listen and kind of start to zone out what's what's physically around you and tune into what's kind of more ethereally happening. Um, and that's where you feel guides, that's where you feel your higher self or like more intuitive energies that are honestly always there. They're on the same plane, they're just vibrating at a different frequency. And we are the radio, we are our antenna, and so we can train ourselves to kind of like tune into the frequency we want. But obviously, when if you're the antenna and you're feeling frazzled or you know, your mind is somewhere else about something busy going on in your life, it's gonna be hard to like tune yourself, right?
Experiencing the "clairs" with aphantasia
Jess CallahanYeah, yeah. I think I'm like I'm thinking of just like even meditation in general, where the first few times you do meditation, you know, if you're living just like a life of chaos, it's really hard to like clear the thoughts, clear your thinking, like let the thoughts pass and just sit with yourself. It's almost, I think it can be almost like excruciating. But the more you practice it, even just in little bits, like five minute sections, like, you know, I'm thinking now, like if I'm overwhelmed at a kid's indoor like soccer tournament or something where it's loud and chaotic, and you know, I have like ADHD and I've got three kids and I'm like, this is insane. But I can I can just drop into myself now and tune it all out and get like just like moments of like calm and clarity, but it's like a it's like a muscle that you have to like work on, right? It's like okay, I'm curious about I want to go back to the clairsentience because I'm really curious about this. Um I have aphantasia, so it's having a blind mind's eye, right? And so through all I've done like a good amount of like research and engaging with communities, and um, I've built my own work in like guiding past life regression and guiding imagery-based meditation. There's some similarities that you're talking about of like trusting what comes forth in those processes, but um, I haven't found any like any evidence or experience from other people who have very successfully like got vision back. If they have, if they are totally blind in their mind's eye, like every now and then, um under certain circumstances, I can get like a flash of color or like maybe a very quick flash of an outline of something. If I'm really working hard in meditation, leading up for several days, I'll get like a flash. Have you seen other people? Well, have you worked with anyone with aphantasia? And if you have, like when you mentioned that the other senses will come forth, is that sort of like an outlier? Or have you seen people with a blind mind's eye get sight?
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyYou know, that's interesting because I can't say that I know of anyone who's told me they have had an aphantasia. I certainly did not see anything when I was first starting out. Like I had no, I guess what I would call clairvoyance. Like I didn't see anything really. It was so hard. I would really focus and push myself so much to where like I'd get headaches because I was just trying to see the way that my peers were seeing.
Jess CallahanDo you mean I'm sorry, when you talk about seeing, like, do you mean if you close your eyes? But do you mean seeing in a clairvoyant way or seeing when you close your eyes, like can you picture an apple?
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyBoth ways. So, like I couldn't I didn't understand, and I I don't even know if I again I don't know if I just didn't understand or if I really didn't see, but I I I couldn't like I didn't understand that imagination was a big part of it. And I also, whenever I would close my eyes, I would just see black. Like I didn't see shapes, I didn't see motion, nothing. And so I was pretty much only clairsentient for like a good year or two, and that's all I went off of. Um, again, I don't have Aphantageia, so I don't know if it's just because like I started off more clairsentient, and then the clairvoyance, like the visuals started to come in. But that being said, I don't feel like it's a disability in any way if you can't visualize, because a lot of people just aren't visual people. And to that, I say I feel like your special like intuitive abilities, it's almost like you have a you have a different spice to you, you know, you have a different way where you can access it. And I almost think that makes you even more unique because you don't receive like in a quote unquote standard, like visual type of way that a lot of people do. So I almost think it makes you more niche in that sense. Yes.
How to connect with and/or work with Kristina
Jess CallahanIt's I think that's a cool like um frame of it. It's sort of like I was I'm sitting here thinking, like, like I sort of have written off trying to get visuals because I'm like, I feel that my um like clericognizance is stronger. Like if I if it's almost like if I block out the noise of even trying to get visuals, and if I just go into like imagery-based meditations or anything, then I receive more insights, you know. But I was like, wait a minute, should I be like, should I go back to like and I'll do all the things, I'll always keep an open mind, but I'm like, yeah, yeah, I should like go back to trying for the visuals. But um, no, yeah, I I agree completely with what you're saying, and it's just a good, a good reminder. Um, okay, so so if somebody were to like work with you and learn with you, um, it sounds like it's a very like custom process, right? As you're talking about the different meditations, you're really working to fit their needs. Um, like what could they expect that process to look like? And is do you just work with people in person or do you work with people on Zoom?
There's more to mediumship than reading for others
Kristina Cosmic ButterflySo most of my work has been online. Um it's only recently that I started doing things in person, which has also been very exciting. And that's its own special kind of experience when you can actually get together with people like in a room. Um, but for the most part, I teach online and I do, I've done both like one-on-one mentorships. And right now I'm kind of expanding more in group classes because I just feel like you you honestly get a little bit more in a group setting because you see other people, how they're reading, you can practice with other people and find your community in that sense. Um, but I will say every group is different. And recently my guides have been revamping all of my classes in a way where it's like, we're going to decide what they're going to learn, which is for the collectives best, you know, for that individual group of like six or seven people. And I think that's even honestly more thrilling for me because I have no idea the direction that we're gonna take the class in. Obviously, I teach the foundations and the fundamentals, and we still build trust. But now it's no longer mediumship has to look like this. Um, and honestly, what really shifted this in me is I had a uh a mentee last year, and um she's listening great, but uh she had signed up and you know, she was like, I don't really know if I want to do mediumship for other people, but for some reason I feel really called to learn. And the entire course was not about me. Every time I, every time we showed up and we're like in the process of like training and learning, her guides came through and it was always about messages for her path. So it wasn't me teaching her, you know, the skill of like reading for other people, but it was more so how to harness mediumship for herself and how to kind of apply it to her path and her purpose and her pursuits, which were more artistic. And that made me realize like mediumship doesn't have to be you just wanting to read for other people. So now it's obviously still the foundations of you know gaining your clear senses and understanding your skill set. But now it's more so like um either the focus is more on your purpose or the focus is more on healing and using it for healing, or the focus can lean more into like shadow work. It really just depends on what spirit sees is you know most beneficial for the group.
Jess CallahanSo that's what I can say. Yeah, yeah, I think okay, so because I want to go into that a little bit deeper, quickly. Like I was going to ask you, like, what but so connecting with ourselves, if you think about like mind, body, soul is what creates really this like foundation for wholeness. Like regulate your body, clear your mind, scrub, you know, scrub the stuff that you're carrying and connect with spirit, however it is that you do, right? It's like the balance. Um, and so going inward, not like like and spirit being through you, right? Not the that's at least how I'm talking about it. Different people can experience it different ways, but like through like experiencing spirit through your own intuitive channels versus just um I like the word that I want to use is like worship, but I'm not sure that's what I mean. But you know what I mean? Like just like um like sourcing it outside of you. I'm talking about sourcing it inside of you. Yes. Um and so I know there's so many benefits, but specifically for somebody who would learn to reconnect with themselves through like working with you or however they would do it, the benefits go beyond just being able to like become a medium to read for other people. Some of the things you just named were like personal healing, finding purpose. Like, how do you see this as something that benefits like each of us?
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyOh, absolutely. I am I love this topic because that is what kept me going with mediumship, is that I experienced so much healing and especially transformation. It wasn't just it no longer became just about learning to read for other people because initially I was like, I want to learn how to do this for myself. Then I realized I want to learn how to do this for other people. And then the more that I worked with spirit, the more I was realizing they were helping me to transform my life. I became more confident. I learned how to more easily manifest things for myself, how to flow with more challenging periods of my life. So it was completely transformational. Um, and I that is one of the things that really just like ignites me and lights me up when I teach other people is that it's not just about learning to read and get messages, which is fun and great, but it's so much more holistic and truly life-changing because specifically in those moments when things get challenging and you're frustrated and you things aren't happening quick enough, or you don't know where to go, what path to take, when you have that skill and that ability and that trust to sit down and talk to your guides or connect to your soul, or just reconnect in general and get that reassurance or that faith of I'm still on the right track, things are going to work out. I don't need to push. In fact, actually, I need to just relax and let go and flow. You're filled with so much peace. And it's like really being able to just access your own peace.
The power of learning in community
Jess CallahanMan, that's such yeah, that like that in and of itself to be to have a way to tap into your own inner peace is like in and you know, just like feels so soothing and healing, just as it is. And I love that you teach in community because I think for so many reasons, I think community is really important. You know, right now we we live behind screens and we're we're really a lot more like disconnected, I think, than we realize. But especially for something like that, I had this, I had a amazing tarot reader on many like weeks ago, months ago, and she talked about this, isn't necessarily community, but she talked about the YouTube videos and the tarot readers on the YouTube videos and watching other people how they process it helped her develop her skill, which is basic, you know, and so I think like being able to see other people do it, but also to be around a group of people who like you don't have to like continuously validate the process and that it's real, like you're just in a community where it is real and it is valid, and like there's just something really beautiful about that too. I think like it just like strips away a layer of self-doubt. I think that's natural for us to feel.
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyYeah, it's quite it really is magical. And I just I love the group settings because people come in and then they realize, you know, oh, everyone here is just like me. They've experienced weird stuff. I can talk to them about this stuff, and they're not gonna be like, what the hell is she going on about? You know, and it's this like camaraderie and support that builds confidence, and you know, it's also nice to be able to have people to kind of like mole things over with or be like, whoa, this thing happened to me. Like, what do you think? What do you pick up on it? Uh, it's fun, it's fun to be in community. And, you know, don't get me wrong, there's a lot of learning that people can do on their own. And uh, at the end of the day, it is a very personal journey. But when you have other people around as support and to learn from um and to lean on, it's you can go so much further, I think. I love that.
Jess CallahanThat's amazing. So, okay, if somebody wants to get in touch with you, I'm gonna include all your like links and everything in the show notes. But like, how do you prefer engaging with people? And yeah, what's the best way?
Kristina Cosmic ButterflyUh, wherever you can contact me on my Instagram, it's underscore cosmic butterfly. I'm on YouTube as Christina Cosmic Butterfly uh website, also Christina Cosmic Butterfly.com. You're welcome to email me, uh, reach out. And yeah, I have in person events currently in Portland, Oregon, and hopefully expanding. Soon we will see if I can maybe manifest a little tour around the country. Oh that's in the works, I guess. But for the most part, you're welcome to find me online.
Jess CallahanUm well, I hope you come to Hershey, Pennsylvania on your tour. I'm sure that's really high on your list, but Hershey would love to have you. It would be so fun. Thank you so so much for being here. Thank you.