34. A Cosmic Weather Report: Why Everything Feels So Intense with Danielle Polgar

In this episode of Conditioning to Consciousness, Jess is joined by returning guest Danielle Polgar, an astrological advisor with over 20 years of study and 13 years of therapeutic client work, to break down the major astrology transits happening right now — and why so many of us feel like we’re living inside a collective “system upgrade.”

While natal chart astrology can help you understand your personal patterns and soul curriculum, this conversation focuses on current transits, including concentrated Aquarius energy, a solar eclipse in Aquarius (Feb 17), Saturn completing a karmic chapter at the final degree of Pisces, and the profound Saturn–Neptune reset at 0° Aries (Feb 20). Together, Jess and Danielle explore how these transits reflect what’s unfolding in the collective psyche: disruption, awakening, destabilization of old structures, and the invitation to reclaim self-agency.

This isn’t astrology as prediction — it’s astrology as pattern recognition, nervous-system awareness, and a grounded tool for navigating chaos with clarity. Danielle offers practical ways to work with the energy — especially through embodiment, discernment, and reconnecting with the present moment — so you can respond rather than react.

What You’ll Hear in This Episode

• Why astrology can be understood as a kind of cosmic weather report
• The archetype of Aquarius: disruption, innovation, collective consciousness, and the individual’s role within the group
• Why “organized chaos” can be a doorway to death and rebirth
• Locating Aquarius in your chart — and what it may be inviting you to shift
• Why this moment can feel like a Tower moment (and what comes after)
• How nervous system regulation supports self-agency during intense collective change
• Practical grounding tools: embodiment, nature, and returning to the present moment
• Why “no one is coming to save us” is not despair — it’s empowerment
• The difference between reacting from fear vs. responding from awareness
• How to “dream and do”: moving from imagination into aligned action

Key Themes + Takeaways

1) You’re not imagining it — this is big energy

2) Aquarius invites a new perspective — and a new role

3) Grounding is not avoidance — it’s the foundation for effective action

4) The future isn’t something we wait for — it’s something we participate in

Connect with Danielle Polgar

Danielle Polgar is an astrological advisor who has studied astrology for over 20 years and has worked with clients therapeutically for 13 years. Her approach uses astrology as a framework for understanding purpose, growth, and the soul’s curriculum — offering practical insight into both the natal chart and current transits to support empowered, conscious living.

Connect with Danielle
Website: https://www.daniellepolgar.com/
Substack
Instagram: @danielle_polgar

If this episode spoke to you, it would mean the world if you took a moment to leave a review or share it with a friend who needs it. And make sure you hit follow so you never miss an episode of Conditioning to Consciousness.

You can connect with me on Instagram @jesscallahan_, join my Substack community at conditioningtoconsciousness.substack.com, or explore more of my work at jesscallahan.com.

My Back in the Body Nervous System Healing course is now available! Find it here.

Thanks for listening — I’m so grateful you’re here.

Transcript

Jess Callahan 0:01

Hey guys, welcome back to the Conditioning to Consciousness podcast. Many of you know that I am a big lover of astrology. I use a lot of natal chart astrology in my work to help people just like better understand their patterns and energetic tendencies. And um, you know, I really see natal chart astrology as like a map of the soul. But it's also really important to remember that there are big transits happening every day, and we're feeling these transits whether we are, you know, consciously aware of it or not. And right now there is some really big astrology happening. So I am joined today by Danielle Polgar. She's been with us before. We did have a conversation about NATO chart astrology previously, and today she's here to talk to us about what's going on in the sky right now, the wild energy that we might or are likely feeling. And um, yeah, so in this conversation, she's gonna break it all down for us. And I just I love talking astrology with Danielle. I love her perspective, and I'm just excited to share this conversation with you. Danielle, thank you so much for joining me again. I feel like maybe you're my resident astrologer now because yeah, I'm just I'm excited to meet with you again. We got to we got to share an episode a couple of months ago, I guess, at this point. Um, but today we are in the middle of some crazy astrology, and so I figured just to sort of give give people another way to sort of like anchor into what they're feeling right now. I thought maybe you could just break down some of the transits for us. Do you want to start though by just giving, for anyone who didn't hear the last episode, just a little bit about who you are?

Danielle Polgar 1:42

Sure. Yeah, um, my name is Danielle Polgar. I'm an astrological advisor, and um I've been studying astrology for over 20 years, but I've been working specifically with clients in um a therapeutic capacity for the past 13 years. And so my role as an astrologer is to really use that as a foundational framework for understanding what our purpose and our sole curriculum is in this lifetime and how to best navigate what's unfolding for us at any given moment. Um, and really just to empower ourselves, you know, um, with self-understanding and how can we be the best version of ourselves for the evolution of our planet.

Jess Callahan 2:23

Yeah. Yeah. There's I think there's so many helpful tools like in astrology and knowing your natal chart. And I think last time we did really focus on natal chart astrology, which can really like break down, like help you sort of follow this like map of figuring out problems in your life and um just yeah, going inward. But today we're gonna talk about the external transits and and so so for anyone listening with astrology, like I mean, astrology has been used since the beginning of time, right? Basically forever. And I know I feel like astrological shifts pretty strongly as they're happening. Once you start to tune in, it's sort of like the idea is like it's setting an energy, right, that we feel, and you can either move with it or against it, but naming it really helps you understand like what it is that's sort of like what the energy is out there. Would you agree or add anything to that?

Danielle Polgar 3:18

Yeah, I mean, you could think of it as like the weather, right? Like when you wake up and it's sunny outside, it's gonna bring about a certain type of energetic reflection within you, right? Like you might have more energy, you might feel more ready to face the day. When it's gloomy and it's like overcast, you might want to like stay cuddled up in your bed, or you know, you might be kind of grumpy and like hard to get going. So you can think of it like that. I also look at astrology as kind of this reflection of what's happening in inside our psyche at any given moment. So the collective transits are it's like a both hand. It's both happening, right? They are literally moving in space around the planet and us, right? And the birth chart itself is an ego and egocentric model. So it's central to who we are, right? Like our perspective from where we're standing on planet Earth. And it's also um, you know, like in contrast to the ancients, that maybe looked at like the planets doing something to us, that we were these puppets. I have found that over time, as we've discovered things about psychology, that this is really a tool to understand who we are in relationship to the cosmos. And so these reflect basically what's happening for us developmentally at any given time as a collective and as individuals. So it's an archetypal language. Like we basically have these characters that um can speak to and speak about different parts of ourselves that you know get activated through um different transits and through different phases of life. And um yeah, there's a certain type of energy and quality to that that we obviously can see emerging in three-dimensional reality, right?

Jess Callahan 5:15

Yeah, yeah. It's funny. Um, so in my in one of my last semesters, I did a really deep dive on like past life regression work and reincarnation. And through that lens, I learned a lot about how, you know, for for someone who like if that fits into a belief system, right? That like a soul could come here choosing certain astrological conditions to support whatever like a soul journey is or a soul mission is. And through that lens, sometimes I'll ask myself, like, why would I have chosen to come to Earth right now? Because like this is chaos, you know. Some sometimes it can feel like chaos when, you know, if I I need some grounding when I'm feeling that way, but it is chaos. And um I think that the astrology can help us understand from a NATO chart perspective, like, what is the work that you're supposed to do here, but also um collectively, like, you know, what's happening and and what how are we how how can we shift, you know? So um I guess through that lens, we do have some major shifts in process and coming up. Um I don't know like what the what the best way is to kind of go through them, but I would love it if we could just like break them down. And I think like as we talk about, I know there's a lot going on in Aquarius right now. Maybe like if we take a minute to kind of help everyone understand a little bit about like Aquarius archetypal energy.

Danielle Polgar 6:48

Sure, yeah, that's a great place to start. Yeah, so Aquarius energy, it's the 11th sign of the zodiac, okay, and it has two planetary rulers. So each sign has a planetary ruler, which means that it kind of governs the the how a sign is expressed. So it has two. It has Saturn, which is about this three-dimensional reality and um structures and containment and boundaries and limitations, and a contrasting energy of Uranus, which is about the transpersonal realm and rebellion and breaking out of molds. Um, so they're very like different energies, right? Um, infusing the nature of how Aquarius energy is expressed. It also represents the collective, um, so collective ideology, group think, et cetera, and what our role is in that, like the individual within the collective. Um, so Aquarius energy tends to be a little bit more on like the outskirts of society. Um, people who are kind of more scientific or observing things, looking for uh pattern recognition, right? Like Aquarius rules astrology, which is essentially a study of pattern recognition. Um there, you know, everybody has Aquarius in their chart. I should just name that too. Like even if you're not an Aquarius sun or moon or rising or you have planets in Aquarius, we all have it somewhere. This like quality of being different, this way of in which we're here to bring about change. Um, so because there's such concentrated energy in Aquarius, there is this disruption that's happening, um destabilizing energy that's coming through to kind of bring about a fresh perspective, which is essentially what Aquarius is here to do. It's here to see a different, see things from different vantage point. Um if you look at the symbolism of Aquarius, it is considered the water bearer, which I know is like super confusing for newbies to astrology, because it is an air sign, which is about the intellect and like the passage of information. But what is a distinction between Pisces and which is a water sign and Aquarius is that Aquarius is holding a vessel of water and pouring it out. Um so it is separate from the water, which represents our collective consciousness. And so it is distributing a per different perspective from you know where it's standing and distributing a consciousness onto the collective. And so that's kind of the role of what Aquarius invites us to do is to not only have a different perspective, but to be able to bring a different frequency into the world or into the masses. Because, like, what are we really here to do? We're here to evolve and change and grow. And Aquarius does not tolerate stagnancy by any stretch because stagnancy equals death. Um, so, anyways, we're all kind of getting that activation of that Aquarian energy within us, wherever that's showing up in your chart. Um, and for, you know, individuals again and the collective. And then we also have um a solar eclipse, which is basically like a new beginning in Aquarius on the 17th of this month. And so this is like a portal right now that we're walking through of change. Um, and we are getting a preview of what the next cycle is going to look like when the transiting nodes, which are these mathematical equations, they're not planets in the sky, um, when they move into the axis of Aquarius and Leo, and that gets activated for an 18-month period. And so essentially we're kind of like looking at the future. We're getting a sense of what's coming and how do I want to respond to this, right? Instead of react. What is my role to play in this collective evolution? And everybody's gonna have a different role, right? Like we're not all here to be activists, we're not all here to be therapists, we're not all here to be, you know what I mean? So like something different for everyone. And I think what this period of time is going to illuminate for people is just specifically what that role is.

Jess Callahan 11:24

Okay, that makes a lot of sense. So if somebody's like specifically just in this moment, somebody's feeling like I'm feeling the change, I want to do something different. What can I like control in my world? I I don't know if this applies to everyone, but like, so I have Aquarius in my third house of communication. So that might make sense. Yeah, my yeah, that would make sense then for me to be like speak like using my voice to for my part of the change, but maybe somebody who has Aquarius in their what would like another example be, like Aquarius in your fifth house or yeah, with your children, right?

Danielle Polgar 12:05

Like, or how you create, you know, your relationship risk taking or um romantic engagements or play in general, like how can I do this differently? How can I bring more joy as an act of rebellion, right? So yeah, I think it's important to identify. I mean, of course, this is a little bit complex as as far as astrology goes because people use different house systems, so sometimes it's gonna look different, but it's all pointing to the same thing and it, you know, it just finding what lands for you. Um, but I think looking at that area of your life that is influenced by Aquarius and saying, okay, there's a door opening here, um, and getting curious about what that door is inviting you to do. Like, how can I do this area of my life differently? How can I show up radically? Um, how can I be rebellious against, you know, a way in which I have been conditioned in this area of my life before? Um, because essentially what we're seeing now, the the other piece of this that's really important to acknowledge is that Saturn being the ancient ruler of Aquarius, it's at the final degree of Pisces, which is the end of the zodiac. It's the end, the end, end. Um 29th degree is the final degree at the final sign. So we're really completing a karmic chapter right now as this door is opening, and we're letting go of a lot of material that we've been carrying for probably lifetimes, maybe stuff that's ours, maybe stuff that's, you know, not ours ancestrally, whatever. And we are stepping into uncharted territory, which is thrilling, but also terrifying because we don't know what the hell we're doing.

Jess Callahan 13:57

Yeah.

Danielle Polgar 13:58

Um and while Saturn is making this final, you know, passage over the next week, um, it's a really good time to just ring out whatever we, whatever ways in which we've been um operating that like are no longer effective. You know, we can see it. Like the world is breaking down. The world is having a breakdown before a breakthrough. And it's actually beautiful. And that's what I love about astrology, is that it's it's chaos, but it's organized chaos. And it's orchestrated so perfectly for um the the contrast of death and rebirth, right? Like in order to create something new, something needs to be destroyed. Even a piece of paper. You want to draw a picture, you have to destroy that piece of paper in order to create something. So there is this whole dynamic occurring of something that's getting destroyed and something that's completing and being washed away, and something new being reborn on the other side of it. Um, which I can get into a little bit more because it's not just the fact that Saturn is at that final degree, it's that it's also meeting up with Neptune at zero degrees of Aries, which is the beginning of the zodiac. So we have a really immense new beginning starting on February 20th. That's like a collective reset, essentially.

Jess Callahan 15:26

I think when so when we talked last time, at least whether it was on video or separately, I know that this like back, I think I want to say we talked in maybe like September or something, like in the it was like early fall. And this is a point in the year ahead that you were like already focused on. Like this is big astrology, and I think astrologers who do watch the patterns, and I think that's a good thing to name, just like when you look at it through the lens of astrology, it is like organized chaos. Like astrologers have been saying, like, this is a chaotic moment and it's coming. And so even though we're all feeling it and it's like, you know, you can feel sort of ungrounded, it's it's or like it's sort of predictable because the map is there. So what does this like what does this moment mean? What does it look like?

Danielle Polgar 16:17

Yeah. Well, and I think it's it's important to just acknowledge what does it feel like, right? Energetic. What they're talking about is energy. Um, you know, on a basic fundamental level, like that's what these planets represent, is is this dynamic between us and them. And um kind of like the the music that is played.

Jess Callahan 16:38

And right now we're them, I'm sorry, us and them being the zodiac. The planets. Yeah, I I'm watching you gesture up, and then I'm like thinking, wait a minute, people can only hear this. Uh the us, us as all of the people, right? Yeah.

Danielle Polgar 16:53

Us as all of the people, and then the planets being these cosmic, I mean, giants. They're c they're giant energetic bodies, right? And so there must be something on a like a literal, you know, um not just quantum physics, but on a physical level that we have this relationship with the planets, you know. I mean, we're part of a solar system. It's a system. Um and so just like family systems, you know, we all have like a relationship and a dynamic, you know, within those. And so you could say the family system is going through, you know, uh like a complete reset where like the way that we've been doing things um is obviously dysfunctional and needs a system upgrade. So it's like you know, when your comp computer like whacks out, you're just like, oh, what's happening? Like, oh my God, you know, it starts acting weird, glitching. That's kind of what's energetically happening. It's the glitch, right? Or like people always say, like the glitch in the matrix. Like the planetary energy is also um awakening us to things that we haven't been able to see, right? Like we've been kind of under this illusion for a long time. And I mean, you know, that's to be said for eons, right? But like in every few decades, we have, you know, like a collective awakening where we learn more about what we were doing in the past that's like ineffective. Right now is kind of like that, um, collective awakening. And that is represented by Uranus at its final degrees of Taurus, um, which is a sign of like stability and security, right? And so Uranus destabilizes and disrupts and awakens us to new ways of doing things, and it really allows us to bring change into whatever area of our life that it's transiting. Um and so it just stationed direct, I think, on the third, second or third of the month, like pretty recently. So it's still in this kind of holding pattern um as it's starting to move forward, you know, visibly in the sky anyway. And um that's significant because we start to really take whatever changes have been happening on the internal, like in our internal space and starting to bring them outward. And so there's like this activation that's happening, right? Like suddenly people are like, oh my God, like I can't believe I didn't know this, or I can't believe um this is happening. Like, what can we do about it? How can we bring about change? And it can be um really exciting and it can also be just like almost traumatic, you know, for people because what is trauma? It's sudden events that we can't integrate, you know, um, in a reasonable way. And so I like to think of this time too as like the tower moment, if you're familiar with um uh the tarot. And so this is the tower moment, and the tower precedes the star. And the star is like a rebirth, right? And the star is um it actually represents Aquarius, it's associated with the sign of Aquarius. And I kind of do see that this period of time is our transition from not that it's like specific, but the transition from the age of Pisces to the age of Aquarius. Like it's not like we're just gonna walk through it and it's like, oh, we're in an age of Aquarius. It's a process that happens over time, but we are moving away from victim perpetrator, rescuer cycles and martyrdom into self-authority, self-agency, self-empowerment, um, power to the people, um collective like utopian ideology. In its contrast, we will probably see more dystopian things as well. But it's so important to acknowledge with Aquarius that it's a lot about our consciousness and how we're perceiving things that makes the difference of how we can experience what is unfolding during this time. So I think I've said a lot there, but you know, feel free to ask more questions than it can. Yeah, I know.

Jess Callahan 21:32

Okay, so I feel like I want I actually want to hear more about what you're saying though, about like how we I guess how we show up for it because it is, I guess, a a choice, more or less, like how we ground into ourselves and in our energy in this process and how we perceive the shift. I mean, it's not going to be a quick shift, it's it hasn't been fast, it's not going to Be fast, and I think for all of us, like the sooner we're able to sort of figure out our role in it, like you were saying before, how we're going to work with the energy, how we're going to, I guess, almost like move into acceptance because it is, it just is, it's not changing right now. And so when you can sit with the feelings that are coming up, whether it's, you know, fear or love, even for, you know, the people, whatever it is, any spectrum, sit with it, accept what's happening, feel it, and then figure out what you do with it. Right? Like, how can people start to work with some of the energy?

Danielle Polgar 22:47

Yeah. I mean, I think a key word to keep in mind is awareness, right? And I don't mean awareness as far as like get more information. I mean awareness of like your response, like really checking in with your nervous system and feeling into how you are responding to life, like all sorts of circumstances, you know, and really kind of move into that witness observer seat to get a sense for how, you know, what what response here would be most appropriate, right? So there's a little bit of distance between how we react to what we see happening in the world. Um, and in that case, we are in a healing process, right? Because how we actually heal from trauma is to slow things down. Because what happens with trauma is that it happens so fast, right? And it's just like, oh my God, overwhelm, shut down, you know, disassociate, whatever. And what we need to do is actually come more into our bodies and more into the into the here and now. This present moment, present myself to my reality. Look around, name five things that you can see, name five, you know, name five things you can smell, touch, really get embodied. And that I think is part of what Uranus in Taurus has been trying to get us to do is to be here now, like really focus on the present moment, because that the present moment is the portal to the future. It's also the portal to the past. And we don't want to continue to operate out of the past because then we will just continue these loops and we'll never see the change that we want to see, right? So we have to kind of create a little bit of distance and get a little detached from what we're witnessing to then be able to slow the whole process down, to slow the nervous system down from being in a reactive state. And then from there, you know, we can have more self-agency, more choice, et cetera. And so how do we do that practically? I mean, yeah, sure, working with a therapist and doing, you know, different embodiment practices like EMDR, but you could simply go outside into nature and go for a walk and sit in front of a tree and look at a tree or converse with a tree, put your face in the sun, um, run your hands underwater, like anything that's going to help reconnect you with your physical body, right? Put your hands over your heart. I have a lot of my clients do the butterfly, you know, movement, which you know can be just a helpful reminder, like I'm I'm safe. I'm not bad is happening to me in this moment. What I see happening in the world can be really activating, but I'm okay right now. Right. I'm safe. So so yeah, I think the presenting piece, the awareness piece, and what else? And then identifying what's actually going to be effective as far as any actions we take. Um, because I do think there's this assumption that we can continue to do what we've been doing, what's been modeled to us, because we aren't really accessing our inherent genius to think differently and think creatively. And the world that we're operating in now is quite different than the world even in the 60s, right? Like we have the internet now, we have social media, different kinds of weapons of mass destruction, psychological warfare, spiritual warfare. Like it is complicated. It's complex. So it requires us to think outside the box, which is another Aquarian theme, um, to think differently and be like, how could I approach this in a way that hasn't been done before? Right. And some of that I think can be, we can when we get together, we when we gather with each other, we can kind of bring that out within each other, which is also part of that Aquarian vibe. It's like finding your tribe and um yeah, like bringing your ideas, creative ideas together. What can we do differently? And how can we also bring our power back to ourselves rather than externalizing and looking for the answer or looking for the savior, which is very much, you know, this martyr error um of the Piscean age of like looking for a savior, like, oh, if I just vote this person in office, they're gonna make everything better. It's like, oh my god.

Jess Callahan 27:42

Yeah. That's not no one is coming to save us. There's no one coming to save us. Like, this is an individual choice to go inward and to shift your world, how you have power over doing it in your own spaces, in the people you can start to gather with again. Like, um, yeah, there's no it's this is a this is an us thing. Yeah, yeah. I think that um I think it's really an interesting moment in that change for a lot of people is really uncomfortable. It's something that we resist because we like to be in our comfort zones. And so we do just sort of, you know, maybe say like this two, this two shop pass, things are gonna be fine, everything's gonna be good, but all of the astrology really lines up for change, disruption. And so I think like sort of what I'm hearing and what I've been feeling is that we do have to go inward and evaluate the parts of our lives that we can courageously start to change. Because when we heal ourselves, when we do our own work in whatever part of life that is, that's also healing the collective, that's also shifting the world around us. So um the resisting it is just going to prolong it, I think, like, or at least or make the make the um the energy harder to to get through, maybe. But right.

Danielle Polgar 29:16

I mean, I think um there's a level of self-responsibility that we haven't fully embodied as a culture, as a collective. And um that's because that's how the power structures and the power power dynamics have been established. And we're kind of all in this collective trance of you know, somebody else will figure it out. Yeah. Like I don't, I don't know what to do. So I'm just not gonna do anything, you know, or whatever it is, or I'm gonna do this thing and I'm gonna freak out and I'm just gonna like rage and fight with people on social media and all that. And it's like, well, is that working either? Like, you know, we we have to be cognizant of the fact that the way that the system functions, it feeds off of our rage and our separation. And so the more we do that, the more we're giving power to the system that we are inherently trying to dismantle. And that's kind of the paradox in it. It's like fight the man or whatever, you know, like, but when you do that, you actually fuel it. And so that's where the creativity needs to come through, where we need to do things differently. It's like, okay, wait, hold on a sec. That's not it. I already know that doesn't work. I know that path doesn't take me somewhere I want to be. And and all of us, right? We've seen this historically. So we get to have this moment where we can really course correct and say, no, we're gonna do things differently this time. We're gonna gather together, we're gonna take our power back. We're not gonna, you know, allow ourselves to get pulled into these distraction tactics that are very effective. They work. By design. By design, exactly. And so when you become aware of that, it's like, oh no, no, no, you don't get to have my attention. You don't get to do this to me. Like this, this is my choice, right? And I often think of Victor Frankel, who um, I don't know if you've ever read the book Man's Search for Meaning. It's an excellent book. He is a Holocaust survivor, um, was a Holocaust survivor. And he came up with this specific type of therapy, existential therapy called logotherapy, which is essentially like you can choose your response in any circumstance. Any circumstance. That is actually the one last freedom that humans have is that. It's a privilege that everyone has. Everybody has a choice in how they're gonna respond to what's showing up in their life and how they perceive what's showing up in their life. And a lot of people get triggered when I talk about this stuff. They're like, oh no, that's not, but it's you know, if a Holocaust survivor can say it, those are some conditions that none of us will thankfully ever experience, God willing. Anyway, um, you know, there's a lot of power in like everybody's born with power. And so the more we continue to give it away um to other people, systems, etc. You know, it's distractions, the less we have to actually create.

Jess Callahan 32:52

Yeah. It's a universal law, really, that we create. We create, you know, the world that we're living in. Um, it is, it is literally one of the laws of the universe. I think it's important to name though, too, like that like we can choose how we are showing up for ourselves in this moment. We can't choose the circumstances around us. And I think from my view at least, like everybody has a role to play right now. And I think it's like I I want to be careful, like to honor, you know, just that there is darkness and there is light, you know, and we have to we have to honor both because if we just look at the light, which is not what you're saying, we we bypass it and change doesn't happen. So if I'm not making a choice to continue to like preserve my energetic boundaries and preserve how much time I'm gonna spend looking at the news or, you know, whatever that is, like if I'm not setting that aside, then I find that I don't have energy to have these conversations on the podcast or write or do my schoolwork. You know what I mean? So uh so from my view at least, like I feel like everyone has a role, but depending on what your where you stand right now and the change that you want to see in the world, you everyone has a choice into how to like balance energy to continue to like replenish themselves and and reconnect with their bodies in order to um to continue to just feel as balanced as possible right now.

Danielle Polgar 34:32

Absolutely. I think what you're describing is discernment, right? Mm-hmm and the boundaries piece, because I think that's really essential is recognizing our own capacity for what we can take in and tolerate, um, and actually what we can um what we can physically do. Like what can I actually do with the resources, awareness, and tools that I have, um, what's actually feasible for me as a parent, as you know, somebody who's unemployed or something like that. You know, there's so there are limits that we're all individually working with that we have to respect and and be cognizant of because um, yeah, and I think again, like that comes back to the self-responsibility of just knowing like, okay, what can I actually take in right now? Right. Um, we can't put these expectations on each other that we need to be um on these devices 24-7, screaming and yelling and and sharing information all the time when we're not all designed that way. Some might be. But and a lot of people are still working out some chronic unresolved trauma, which is getting like reactivated all the time right now. And so we have to understand and have compassion for each other's perspectives and experiences of like, oh, right, like I don't have to worry about what this person is doing. It's not my job to convince other people of what they should be doing. They're in charge of themselves. I'm in charge of me. What can I do? How can I take, you know, what I'm seeing and make something of it? And I think in doing that, we're also, like you said, you know, the the turning inward, it it's important that we don't shy away from our shadow stuff as well, right? Like the darkness of the world is a reflection of our own internal darkness. We are, this is a hologram as far as I'm concerned, you know? And so if we don't, if we continue to look outside as like outside is the problem, and we're not looking inside, we most likely won't get to see a shift. But if we look inside and say, like, how am I contributing to what I see unfolding on some energetic level, like on a frequency level, right? How am I at war with myself? How am I unkind, right? Like these are things in in the awareness invitation as well, because there's a lot of dialogue happening for everybody all the time. That, you know, are we really aware of how we're talking to ourselves, what we're expecting of ourselves, like how we're being authorit, like authoritarian with our own lives, tyrannical with our own lives. Like, why are we doing that? How are we expecting the world to be different if we can't even do that for ourselves? So change that. So I think there's also just this calling back of looking at it's not to say that there's not bad things happening in the world, because there are and there always has been. But if we really want to make a change, what might that look like inside? So that on a frequency level, we start to emit something new that then gets echoed back to us in the field. Because what I see right now, we're fucked up inside.

Jess Callahan 38:06

Yeah. Yeah. I I yeah, I agree so much. I think even just your point about like people healing trauma, I think that there's a huge level of just like dysregulation, just because of like the lives we've been living and how we've just been taught to bypass ourselves and our inner needs and knowing. And so truly, like, even though we're living in this moment of chaos, it's it's also it is truly a moment of chaos within ourselves that has to be healed first. Like healing starts on an individual level because until we can regulate our ourselves, until we can, like you said, I mean, naming all of those things, how are we being unkind to ourselves? Like, how are we talking to ourselves? Like, until we heal all of those subconscious patterns, what we're reflecting into the world isn't is not the like we can fight all we want for the world we want, but until we've created that, you know, here inside, it's it's like it's just going to burn people out and lead us back to the same place over and over and over again. And that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I love that astrology gives us that map, literally gives us a map in but in what both ends of what we're talking about right now. Astrology gives us a map to follow. It's like right now there's so much happening in Aquarius, like it's just, I mean, even though like the sun is in Aquarius right now, it's Aquarius season in the year, but like they're you know, from eclipses to like there's just there's a stellium in Aquarius right now, so lots of lots of planets. I think it's just important to name that like you can go to your NATO chart, find your map to like figure out the work you need to do, see what's going on on the collective, figure out what you're feeling, but then keep going back to your NATO chart to like figure out where you have work to do.

Danielle Polgar 39:51

Yeah, yeah. And I mean, the Natal chart from my lens, it's like it's just a reflection of your internal self. So even if you don't know astrology, that's fine. You know things are changing. You most people I speak to who, you know, some people are interested in astrology and not, they every it's a collective upgrade. Like everyone's in massive shifts right now. So if we just tune in enough, we can hear what we're being asked to do. We can hear the call, and we can totally reject the call and refuse it and be like, oh, I'm not ready. But life is going to push us in the direction of change, whether we feel ready or not. So you can get excited about it or you could be terrified and shut down, right? You get to decide like choice, right? Like this is an adventure. We're all on it. We never know what we're gonna face when we wake up in the morning. It's a new day. What's today gonna be like, right? And that's kind of what life is right now. Yes, we have some indicators like Saturn and Neptune are gonna make this conjunction on the 20th and Aries at zero degrees, which it hasn't we haven't seen these two planets together since 1989, when the Berlin Wall came down, and you know, lots of restructuring and um like a 36-year cycle that we are now completing. But these two planets have not been together at this particular degree in Aries for thousands of years. So this is like crazy change, right? It's a fresh, brand new beginning, zero degrees of Aries with the planet of this three-dimensional reality and the planet of imagination, unity consciousness, and creative, you know, expression or cre creativity in general. Um contrasting energies coming together, they neutralize each other. So it's a fresh, like it's like a blank slate, you know, a new a fresh canvas. What do I want to create right now? What a cool opportunity. It's so awesome. It's it's like get excited because if we continue to live in this fear of like what's coming and we're bracing, then we're living in a contracted state. But when we're excited and we're open and we're curious, like we can welcome so much more, we can see so much more, so much becomes like available to us. And so, you know, it's your choice. Like you were born for this time.

Jess Callahan 42:32

Yeah. I'm you know I'm picturing myself getting a blank canvas actually, and as yeah, as the like energy unfolds, just like painting it with like just the colors that come up and and the colors of like the future that I want for myself and the change that I continue to want, and just like dreaming into all that can be. I think that's it is it's a really cool moment, and it's big energy, but it is it's so important to to just shift the energy a little bit to be focused on like where are we going? What can we create? Like, this is a moment where like we get to dream up what we really want for ourselves and for the collective, and so start dreaming, yes, start dreaming, but also start doing, start making it kind of in Aries.

Danielle Polgar 43:20

Like Aries is focused on action, making it planetary ruler is Mars, which is the planet of action, an assertion. You know, it's like this is your one wild life. Like, what are you going to make of it? You're never gonna get to do this particular birth chart, this configuration ever again. You know, we're all unique in who we are, and we have a unique frequency and vibration that we can bring into this moment. How are we gonna do that to the fullest? Like, what actions do we need to take in order to be our full selves? You know?

Jess Callahan 43:59

Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's a really good point, just like because Pisces is dreamy, right? Like and so if we're moving, if Pisces is at the end of the zodiac and we're moving into like Aries in this space, um, it is literally not about start dreaming. It is literally like you've been dreaming. Now it's time to actually like hit the pavement and do the things.

Danielle Polgar 44:21

And then like in in addition to that, we also have the Chinese astrology, which echoes this into a fire horse ear from a snake ear, which I think it was like a water snake, um, which is definitely more about shedding and letting go. It's like feeling the inspiration and allowing that to move us forward and you know, the momentum building and not to go like completely off the rails, right? Which I don't think Saturn will allow us to do. Saturn in Aries is definitely helpful in that it can curb our impulses a little bit, you know, and our rage. Like we might you know feel frustrated. Oh, I want things to happen sooner or whatever. But it's like, you know, real change takes time. It takes time, it takes attention, it takes commitment, it takes perseverance. Like, what do you want to commit to and see through? This is the time to start planting those seeds. And over the next 36 years, we will see the fullness of what that looks like, you know, on our own individual levels, but also in the collective in the world.

Jess Callahan 45:37

And it's 36 years because that's the that's how long it takes Neptune to, is that right, Neptune to cycle through? So Neptune will be in Aries for 36 years. No, so Saturn and Neptune, when they come together in a conjunction, uh-huh, they cycle together that last 36 years. Oh. So they are going to stay together for 36 years.

Danielle Polgar 45:59

Well, they're going to move in a relationship with each other in for the next 36 years because they have a different orbit around the Earth. So like Neptune will be in Aries for the next, you know, 14 years, but Saturn will only be in Aries for the next two years. So like they have different planetary orbits, but what they are initiating in this conjunction is a new cycle together. And it's a cardinal sign, which is again a new beginning. So it's like, yeah, it's big.

Jess Callahan 46:35

Yeah. Oh, good. Well, I I'm really excited, especially after this conversation, just about yeah, just about the action behind the dreaming. Like just uh I'm excited to see where we go from here. I'm really excited to just lean into it.

Danielle Polgar 46:50

I mean, and I just want to say too, you know, um, I'm an Aquarian person, so I feel like I'm always living in a future reality that people haven't caught up with yet. So I don't like I speak from that space, and a lot of people are like, what are you even talking about? Like, this is what's happening here. And I'm like, I know what's happening there. I get it. If you need to be in your grief and be in your process, that's fine. Be where you are. Honor that. Like really be with it. But at some point, move the energy forward. Don't stay stuck in the mud because it's not gonna help you, it's not gonna help anybody else. And there will be plenty of people to greet you on the other side of that who are like, yeah, great, welcome. Let's do this.

Jess Callahan 47:40

Yeah, yeah, I love that. So if somebody wants to work with you, you work with people like one-on-one. Like if somebody wants to find you and just like tap into this like wealth of information and energy, how can they find you?

Danielle Polgar 47:55

Yeah. So um my website is my first and last name, Daniellepolgar.com. And um I recommend everybody start with what I call the Prism session, which just helps you see like the moment that you're in, the patterns that you're living out through the natal chart and through your transits right now. And um the way that I work with clients is often to provide a different perspective and a different lens through which they can also see their potential so that they can then take different action in the world so that the patterns that we, you know, tend to repeat get interrupted, and then we can have a different experience moving forward. So um, if you're looking for a different lens, if you're ready for change, if you are even terrified of change, but you feel like, oh, I just like curious, like an ounce of curiosity, yeah, definitely reach out and um I'd love to connect with you.

Jess Callahan 48:50

Awesome. I'll put all your info in the show notes. Thank you for being here again and just like enlightening us with all of this, like the whole world of astrology, which is just so dynamic. Yeah, it's it's I love learning from you. So thank you.

Danielle Polgar 49:03

Hey, thanks for having me.